Senior Lead Navigator Bryan Rose recently sat down in an interview with Tim Stevens, Executive Pastor of Campuses and Culture at Willow Creek, as a part of Tim’s Leading Smart Executive Pastor Coaching Network.

In a wide-ranging discussion that centered on challenges facing church leaders today, Bryan and Tim talked about:

• Living in a culture and society where everybody’s opinion is the right opinion
• Leading well with conviction and calling versus convenience and community
• The danger of making budget and not making disciples
• The power of capturing life-changing stories
• The problems leaders face are at the center a clarity first challenge
• What happens when the flywheel turns into the Ferris wheel
• And more!

Listen to their entire conversation here.